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Exclamation High-end video capture cards
Posted by: spoRv - 2015-01-24, 10:48 PM - Forum: Capture and rip - Replies (91)

...once upon a time, I was happy with my video capture card... it is based on the Philips SAA-713x chipset, has a 9-bit ADC, 4-line adaptive comb filter, could capture uncompressed... and it's better than ones based on BT8X8 chipset!

Then, also thanks to this forum, I discovered that there are much better video capture cards around...
The requirements:

  • MUST capture uncompressed YUV 4:2:2 (and, if possible, HuffYUV too)
  • MUST have a REALLY good comb filter ALSO for PAL signal
  • MUST capture PAL and NTSC
  • 10-bit ADC and over preferred
  • PCI highly preferred; then PCI-E, USB 2.0, FireWire
  • Composite and S-Video input - RGB and/or Y/Pb/Pr are welcome
  • TBC will be appreciated, but absolutely not mandatory
  • VirtualDub capture really appreciated, but not mandatory
  • No TV tuner whenever is possible
 
During my usual internet searches, I found some interesting products - in no particular order:
 
Aja Kona LHe Plus
overly exagerated for laserdisc captures, price out of many pockets... has a 12-bit ADC, but only a 3-line comb filter; could capture audio too, but analog is XLR balanced...
 
Viewcast Osprey 530
Seems very good, but have not find deep info about it. The 4-channel capture cards of the same brand have 3-D + 2-D comb filter, so it's highly probable that this one has it too.
 
Black Magic Intensity Pro
10-bit ADC, 24-bit analog audio input, price not too high... maybe the right compromise; but it seems that SD capture is there as a "bonus feature"!
 
Pixel Magic PDI Deluxe a.k.a. SweetSpot
IIRC used by the X0project, and works well with DScaler too! But was not able to spot anywhere used...
 
ATI Theater HD 750 -> Asus My Cinema ES2-750 -> Diamond TVW750PCIE
12-bit ADC, 2-D 5-line and 3-D comb filter (will the latter work with PAL too?!?), and NO hardware MPEG2 encoder like the 650... Someone thinks that its AGC has problems.

At the end, I was lucky to find an used SweetSpot, in perfect shape and almost for free... Big Grin

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Exclamation High-end audio capture cards
Posted by: spoRv - 2015-01-24, 10:26 PM - Forum: Capture and rip - Replies (24)

Many think that their default audio card is good enough… but, are you sure about it?

I was sure too, that my own sound card, a SigmaTel with the CXD9872RD was pretty good… the true is, that my ears and my TV speakers are not good enough to spot the difference between what could be considered a mediocre sound card (like mine) and what IS an excellent card.
It’s time to upgrade it… so, the feautures that I’m looking for an excellent sound card, to use as analog audio capture device along with its video counterpart are:

  • variable bitrate (16/24bit)
  • variable sample frequency (44,1KHz and 48KHz mandatory)
  • high quality connection, gold-plated
  • RCA analog input/output are very welcome
  • S/PDIF digital input or output are highly appreciated
  • NO external interface box – at least only connection cables
After some days of hard web search, I found A LOT of high end cards… I picked up few of them, that could be interesting:

M-Audio Audiophile 2496
16/24bit, 96KHz, gold plated RCA in/out, digital in/out, ADC S/N >100dB

Asus Xonar Essence ST
16/24bit, 44.1 to 192KHz, digital in/out, ADC S/N >118dB, lacks RCA in

ESI Audio Juli@
16/24bit, 44.1 to 192KHz, gold plated RCA in/out, digital in/out, ADC S/N >114dB

Lynx Studio Technology L22
8/16/24/32bit, 8 to 200KHz, ADC S/N >117dB, XLR&BNC in/out, optional digital boards

The Lynx L22 could be defined the Rolls Royce of sound card; excellent high quality, lot of features, but really high price.
M-Audio is very good, but quite old; the price is reasonable.
Asus seems to be the newest card, with excellent S/N ratio, but unfortunately lacks RCA in/out.
At the end, ESI Juli@ could be definided the best sound card, considering the balance between audio quality, features and price.

But it’s difficult to tell how much an high end sound card could be better than my old, default, simple sound card – that, by the way, is capable of capture digital sound bit-to-bit perfect, and that’s a very good thing!

Then, I discovered a free tool that could tell me the quality of any sound card, using test signal sent and received. I used the earphone out, connected to the microphone in, to test my sound card – better connections could be used, of course, with better result, but I wanted to test the worst case scenario.

The tool is RightMark Audio Analyzer (or RMAA); I tested my sound card with RMAA 5.5, but there is also a newer version; I strongly encourage all of you interested in audio capture for their restoration projects (but not only) to download it, install it, take some minutes to learn how to use it, get results and finally make a comparison between your actual card and some of the best ones.

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  Hello
Posted by: Chewtobacca - 2015-01-24, 07:57 PM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (3)

Hello, everyone! Smile

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  Hey everyone
Posted by: Tylerdurden389 - 2015-01-24, 06:52 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (1)

Hi members. Name's Steve, from Brooklyn, NY. Been into movies my entire life. Been a fan of fan editing since 2007. And I've always appreciated film preservation. I'm also a member of fanedit.org and originaltrilogy.com as well. Can't wait for the all the great convos to have on this site.

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  Audio preservation forum
Posted by: jonno - 2015-01-23, 08:40 PM - Forum: Bug reports and suggestions - Replies (4)

I've just got here and I'm already moving the furniture around ;-)

How about an audio-specific section? Lots of us are into resyncing soundtracks (usually laser-sourced, but not always) so it would be good to keep track of the various audio-only projects in their own threads. It may even help me remember what I'm working on myself...

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Thumbs Up Almost Human (TV series)
Posted by: spoRv - 2015-01-23, 06:53 PM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other - Replies (4)

Finally an high quality sci-fi series!!! It was time, indeed! Acting is good, actors are well chosen, effects are not perfect but a lot better than some other series (SyFy for example)... and the fact that J.J. Abrams produced it, could be defined a "seal of quality"! I like almost all of these, but... we are in the 2048; we have human clones, android with emotions, improved humans, holographic "things" everywhere... and we still have 30+ years old Fiat 500, Smart ForTwo, Can-Am Spider and even a Segway(!) ?!?

Apart the latest little annoying fact, every other aspect of the series is good, so take some time to watch it; really reccomended to any sci-fi lover!

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  Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv]
Posted by: spoRv - 2015-01-22, 11:04 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (42)

_,,,^..^,,,_ presents: Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv]

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| PROJECTS: Released | In progress | Future | Mission & Setup |

Mission: to restore Disney's Beauty and the Beast, to recover its original color grading, and to add the laserdisc original soundtrack.
Video sources: analog video captured directly from Laserdisc, using one of the best laserdisc player ever produced, the Pioneer HLD-X9
Audio sources: uncompressed PCM captured directly from Laserdiscs; other soundtracks from BDs and DVDs.
Subtitles sources: subtitles for all languages.
 
Project info:
"Beauty and the Beast" was released in Blu-ray but, altough its quality is good, is different from the laserdisc; the color grading is not what it should be, and has massive contrast problems; the laserdisc soundtrack is closer to the original Dolby Surround soundtrack than the BD.
 
Source Material

Video:

 Audio:
  • Various BDs and DVDs

Subtitles:
  • Various BDs and DVDs

Final format: BD-25

Video:

1920x1080, 23.976fps, A.R. 1.66:1, AVC encoded 28mbps

Audio:
  • English: PCM 2.0 16bit 1536kbps from US LD
  • English: DTS 5.1ch 16bit 1509kbps from US BD
  • French: DD 5.1ch 16bit 640kbps from EUR BD
  • German:  DTS 5.1ch 16bit 1509kbps from EUR BD
  • Italian: DD 5.1ch 16bit 384kbps from PAL DVD
  • Spanish:  DTS 5.1ch 16bit 1509kbps from EUR BD
  • Commentary: DD 2.0ch 16bit 192Kbps from EUR BD

Subtitles:
Main feature: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish
Commentary: English, French, Italian, Spanish

Extra:

Animated menu, custom front and back covers, disc label

"Partner in crime":
nirbateman - the project promoter, quality control, soundtracks provider and synchronizer... he did so many things, that he should be considered to be the producer of this release... kudos!

Available on a demonic paranoid torrent tracker... -> many thanks to Valeyard for the re-upload!!!

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  Hey folks
Posted by: jonno - 2015-01-22, 09:30 PM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (5)

Thanks to Andrea for the invite - nice place you have here!

I think we'll all find plenty to talk about...

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  Hey all and thanks to CSchmidlapp
Posted by: msp1518 - 2015-01-22, 03:09 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (3)

Gents (and ladies)... I am over at OT and CSchmidlapp gave me the heads up about this place. Some of you know me for my HONG KONG RESCUE work.

More to come... :cool:

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  [proposal] 007 Purist Redux
Posted by: captainsolo - 2015-01-22, 01:34 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (50)

As many of you know, I've researched these films for an eternity. I'm still in the process of obtaining the best information on the 20 original films in terms of both picture and sound, in order to finally have accuracy in video. Currently I think the best way to achieve this would be to:
1. Purist edition: Using primarily the SE DVDs combined with Laserdisc PCM original audio, and some LD for cropped transfers, missing frames etc. for a truer representation of how the films looked. Possibly upscaled to 720p akin to the new GOUT from Darkjedi/U2. Since the SE DVDs are essentially like the GOUT in terms of representation this seems pretty straightforward.
2. Eventually do a complete regrading of the BDs, once more print sources become available for comparison. Also, some BDs seem to not use the Lowry transfers so more research is needed.

Lastly, 4K DCPs are starting to make theatrical appearances and these may have been further tweaked.

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