Source: BFI WEB Audio
https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281954%29

Synced to the JPN Toho UHD.
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(2023-06-23, 11:01 AM)xwmario Wrote: Audio comparison for The Rules of the Game [1939]

• Sources Used for comparison (available)
  
• Criterion UHD Blu-ray
  
• Criterion HD Blu-ray
  
• BFI Blu-ray
  
• ESC Editions (France) UHD Blu-ray
  
• Criterion DVD
  
• BFI PAL-DVD
  
  Sources Unavailable
  
• Laser Discs / VHS (as mentioned above)
  

I have been breaking my head on this, as the BFI Blu-ray and the newly released remastered version UHD Blu-ray from Criterion has muffed audio. If you notice the specs below

1. Criterion Blu-ray 1080p -

The audio present with the Old school Criterion Blu-ray is the best, so good that it actually beats the Criterion DVD. You may notice a low pass filter here, but the CC DVD has more of it. Probably the only reason of it being the best audio choice as of now. The depth in dialogues are much clearer and has details very noticeable.

2. Criterion DVD -

Could have been an easy win, but due to the low pass filter being very significant and lying on the audible range, One could easily differentiate in the audio loss and quality.

3. Criterion UHD -

I'll keep this as simple as possible, Audio is botched, you could find that out from the score at the samples provided below. Went under heavy noise reduction and has details missing!.

4. BFI Blu-ray -

The audio presented in the Blu-ray is of 2.0, but after the inverse check it's out to be the mono!! So downed to 1 channel for a better reference.
Well, the same as above, the only difference is that there is a tempo change and a possible shift.

5. ESC Editions (France) UHD Blu-ray - Same as above.

Samples - https://mega.nz/folder/tyoDjLwb#OU0-TuzpxtCtfw2tbL7MAA
The samples consist 10 minutes audio of BFI, Criterion Blu-ray, Criterion UHD Blu-ray. The audio/volumes are matched at the same levels in-order to get a taste test


Regards

Hi there, I'm new here and I learned of this site a while ago for the Charmed series and now again for Harry Potter. I'm very excited to see the fan communities that wish to make the movies and shows even nicer.

The 1999 DVD contains what should be the original 70mm/35mm mixes, in addition to including an isolated score.

There is, however, one issue. The 5.1/2.0 have an error in the credits where a bit of music from later is duplicated earlier. Ideally the 5.1 would be patched with the 2007 remix, (where the music here is correct,) and the 2.0 patched with the isolated score. But I do not currently have access to that remix, and getting the score patched in just right is a bit outside my area of expertise. If someone else here wants to take a crack at it, feel free. Otherwise, these are still at the very list similar to the original mixes, and lack the revisions from later mixes.

Note: I didn't really sync them, because they already seem to match up without any adjustments. Hard to be sure though, as the remixes are all slightly out-of-sync, and trying to match lipflaps of puppets doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Hi everyone

I am about to compare the audio tracks for Ace in the Hole (1951) and I currently have the audio from the Criterion Blu-Ray, the Eureka! Blu-Ray, and the Criterion DVD.

I would greatly appreciate if anyone could share with me any other audio tracks they have, e.g. the one from the old Paramount DVD.

Thanks

Discovered this place while searching for Open Matte/IMAX versions of Harry Potter.

Just a newb with some interest. Nice to meet you all.

Released in 1973, Serpico's original sound mix was naturally mono.

Kino, the self-proclaimed best label in the world, naturally once again offered a split-L/R-stereo mix on their new UHD, in addition to a 5.1 remix . After phase-inverting their R-channel and downmixing to 1.0:


To source a genuine mono, I've examined these previous BDs:

• 2010 FR/DE/ES StudioCanal BD
  
• 2014 UK Eureka MoC BD
  
• 2020 FR/DE StudioCanal remastered BD (SC UHD released at the same time presumably features the same tracks)
  

Moshrom/Blah-ray has previously concluded that the Criterion BD's mono sounded the best: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2016/09/th...-1962.html

I've examined Kino UHD's 2.0. It's a split-L/R-stereo (best label in the world huh). After inverting the R-channel and downmixing to 1.0, the result looks busy as hell instead of a flat-line:



Inputs:

• Criterion mono: PCM, 1.0 mono, 1152 kbps, 48 kHz, 24-bit
  
• Criterion commentary: AC-3, 1.0 mono, 192 kbps, 48 kHz
  

• Criterion mono: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 608 kbps, 48 kHz, 24-bit
  
• Criterion commentary: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 233 kbps, 48 kHz, 16-bit
  

• Kino UHD is presented in 24 fps, while Criterion BD is 23.976 fps as usual. I've sped up both tracks from Criterion with SoX.
  
• Kino UHD and the Criterion BD are frame-accurate. The only difference is Criterion having an extra 715 frames at the beginning. At 24 fps, this translates to a delay of -29792ms.
  
• Kino UHD opens with a silent OG United Artist logo. Criterion BD opens with a new UA-MGM logo, then the MGM lion. I've trimmed the sound in both parts, and on both the film's audio and the commentary.
  
• Fortunately on the commentary, Frankenheimer doesn't start talking until the film starts. So nothing is lost by trimming the extra 29792ms. Additionally, he finishes just as the film ends.
  

Moshrom/Blah-ray previously compared Criterion DVD, Optimum DVD, and StudioCanal BD. The SC BD was the winner. https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2018/03/la...-1954.html

I've just ripped my Criterion BD from the Essential Fellini boxset. Here's its spectrogram matching Moshrom's settings (not level-matched to previous BD/DVD but likely doesn't matter given how obviously filtered it is):


Moshrom's spectrogram of the SC BD:


Four-way comparison: https://slow.pics/c/2ABxGJwi

As usual, the Criterion BD features additional filtering in both the high and low frequencies.

Does anyone have the SC BD's mono track (preferably with video for an easier sync)? If not, I can grab a used copy and attempt syncing, but it may be a long time before it gets to me.

Thanks!

Just found out about this website, and I must say I have the utmost respect for those who keep old media both available and in good quality.