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  The Rules of the Game [1939] & analyzing audio.
Posted by: xwmario - 2023-06-18, 09:06 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (3)

https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/12120/PIL...-the-Game)
Also requesting VHS, BFI PAL DVD format for the audio or any PAL DVD you could find. So I could analyze the audio.
Quite a rare LD overall. So if anyone has or can capture the audio. I will gladly sync and analyze the audio.

OR
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00934/CC1...al-Edition
CC LD, any audio option is fine.

Regards

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  The Seventh Seal (1957) IVC LD, Swedish DVD, Criterion Commentary Synced to BFI UHD
Posted by: axeyou - 2023-06-18, 09:35 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (3)

Sertoli previously synced the IVC LD & Svensk Filmindustri DVD to the 2018 Criterion BD (part of the Ingmar Bergman's Cinema boxset). Since he doesn't appear to be active around here anymore, I've taken the liberty to re-time his syncs to the new BFI UHD. I've also thrown in Criterion's commentary by Bergman expert Peter Cowie as a bonus. (A great commentary IMO. It definitely helped me appreciate the film more after a perplexing first watch years ago.)

Audio comparison:


Picture quality wise, BFI's UHD is better than Criterion's new UHD, because:
  • David M. @ Fidelity in Motion encoded the BFI release.
  • BFI is presented in (a conservatively-graded) Dolby Vision, while Criterion UHD is presented in SDR. Here's BFI's HDR grading, plotted from my own disc (blue line tracks per-shot MaxCLL; purple line tracks per-shot MaxFALL):
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Credits (THANK YOU!):
  • IVC LD originally sourced by: BDgeek / alinskey
  • IVC LD originally ripped by: alinskey
  • IVC LD & Swedish DVD originally synced to Criterion BD by: sertoli
  • sertoli's syncs shared with me by: stwd4nder2
  • [BONUS] Criterion commentary ripped & synced by: axeyou

Inputs:
  • IVC LD: FLAC, 2.0 mono, 718 kbps, 44.1 kHz, 16 bits
  • Swedish DVD: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 339 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits
  • Criterion Commentary: AC-3, 1.0 mono, 192 kbps, 48 kHz

Outputs:
  • IVC LD: FLAC, 2.0 mono, 715 kbps, 44.1 kHz, 16 bits
  • Swedish DVD: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 336 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits
  • Criterion Commentary: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 249 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits

Notes on the sync:
  • BFI UHD is presented in 24 fps, while Criterion BD is 23.976 fps as usual. I've sped up all three tracks with SoX.
  • BFI UHD and the 2018 Criterion boxset BD are frame-wise identical. The only difference is Criterion having an extra 865 frames at the beginning. At 24 fps, this translates to a delay of -36042ms.
  • When remuxing, the LD and DVD tracks I'm sharing need this -36042ms delay. However, the Criterion commentary track complicates things, as Peter Cowie starts introducing himself at an untimely ~33 seconds. So, if you are interested in the commentary, apply a positive 36042ms delay to the BFI UHD's video, audio, subtitle, and chapters instead.
  • Alternatively, apply a +5000ms delay to BFI's video & associated tracks, and a -31042ms to the LD, DVD, and commentary tracks. See comment below: I've re-synced the commentary to perfectly match BFI UHD.
  • I've also included SRTs from both the 2018 Criterion BD (re-synced to BFI) and BFI UHD. Their translations are a little bit different, e.g. BFI refers to Death as "the Devil" in a few but not all instances. I don't speak Swedish to be able to determine which one is more accurate.

PM me for a link. Enjoy!

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  Salut !
Posted by: therobotdreamer - 2023-06-17, 02:22 PM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Hello there,

Just found this great forum while looking for the new Akira Kurosawa UHD remux by "xwmario".
Im gonna check if there is some magic for the Sergio Leone audio's...

See ya

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  Blade Runner: Archival Versions (1982-1992) LD tracks synced to BD
Posted by: Hydra Spectre - 2023-06-17, 05:43 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (1)

I always wanted lossless Dolby Stereo 2.0 tracks of the Archival Versions (Theatrical, International, and Director's Cuts) of Blade Runner that are synced up to the Archival Versions Blu-ray.
The German 30th Anniversary Blu-ray (which has a superior x264 encode for the Archival Version) does contain a lossy DD 5.1 track but not a 2.0 track like the US version.

Which is why I want someone to do LaserDisc digital captures of the following LaserDiscs and sync them up to the Archival Versions Blu-rays.
I want versions of the audio synced to the Blu-ray in single versions, and to the raw Blu-ray streams but made compatible with seamless branching.

At least in the German 30th Anniversary Blu-ray, here's how the segments/Blu-ray streams are arranged in each version:
Director's: 1,22,23,25,26,32,27,34
International: 1,33,23,8,26,9,27,14
Theatrical: 1,31,23,25,26,32,27,24

And this may be different, but I hope someone has the HD-DVD of the Archival Versions, to get the DD+ tracks from that, which are probably slightly better than the DD tracks from the Blu-ray.
Here are the possible NTSC LDs for the Dolby Stereo LPCM tracks:
Japanese LaserDisc of the US Theatrical Cut [NJEL-20008] (original Dolby Stereo mix of the US Theatrical Cut, the only release of this cut with digital audio)
US Criterion LaserDiscs of International Theatrical Cut [CC1169L] (CLV) and [CC1120L] (CAV Special Edition) (original Dolby Stereo mix of the Domestic Theatrical Cut)
LaserDiscs of Director's Cut (US) [12682] and (Japan) [NJL-12682] (original Dolby Stereo mix of the Director's Cut)

Lastly, is the 5.1 track of the Archival Versions the original 70mm six-track mix or a remix/upmix of the 2.0?

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  Cinderella (1950) LD [4964 CS] Audios Synced to Disney UHD
Posted by: Trollking1 - 2023-06-14, 07:52 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (1)

Original Mono, Music and Effects Mono, Stereo Remix from LD [4964 CS] synced to UHD.
Since I don't want to create two duplicate threads for this movie, I also included as bonus the mono from previous Diamond Blu-ray synced to UHD.
All these to be shared by pm.

All these are in FLAC (24 bits for mono BD, the rest 16 bit), Stereo Remix is 2.0; the rest 1.0.

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  Le Corbeau / The Raven (1943) Optimum UK DVD Synced to StudioCanal / Criterion BD
Posted by: axeyou - 2023-06-14, 10:04 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (7)

Here's an audio sync for another classic but lesser-known title. Before Diabolique (1955) & Wages of Fear (1953), Henri-Georges Clouzot directed Le Corbeau in 1943, under Nazi occupation of France. It almost derailed his career post-war, when Clouzot was accused of collaborating with the Nazis. But this film is anything but collaborationist, it served as an allegory to expose a society devoid of morality.

Picture quality first:

I took some screen caps comparing Criterion and StudioCanal's BDs. They are sourced from the same 4K restoration. To my eyes, grain on Criterion appears slightly more defined, so the Criterion BD is what I'll be syncing audio to. See M A's comments below. Criterion is actually sharpened a bit and has compression artifacts. I've added a sync to target StudioCanal as well.

Caps: https://slow.pics/c/h9sZull5

Now, audio:

Let's start with the 2005 Optimum (UK) DVD, slowed down to 23.976 fps. It's very hissy, but very detailed. There are some distortions during loud music, e.g. during opening, and artifacts elsewhere, but nothing I can't stand.

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Next up is the 2004 Criterion DVD.

Criterion DVD Booklet Wrote:The soundtrack was mastered at 24-bit from a digital monaural mix, and audio restoration tools were used to reduce clicks, pops, hiss, and crackle.

Criterion applied a high-pass filter and some more filtering in the upper frequencies. It still sounds ok, but slightly worse than the Optimum DVD.

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Had the audio "restoration" stopped here, the result would have been pretty respectable. But then Éclair restored the audio as part of a 4K restoration, and StudioCanal released that on BD in 2017.

Criterion BD Booklet Wrote:The original monaural soundtrack was also restored at Éclair, [...]

Whereas the DVD tracks used to boast detail up to ~15 kHz, everything is now cut off at ~8 kHz. Very muffled.

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Finally, we arrive at the Criterion BD, released in 2022.

Criterion BD Booklet Wrote:The original monaural soundtrack was also restored at Éclair, with additional restoration carried out by the Criterion Collection.

As usual, Criterion can't keep their fingers off the "filter" button, even when the input is already filtered. Additional high-pass filtering on top of an absurdly low-pass filtered track.

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Flip between these spectrograms here: https://slow.pics/c/S8kaLqBN

Input: AC-3, 2.0 mono, 224 kbps, 48 kHz
Output: FLAC, 2.0 mono, 421 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits

Notes on the sync:
  • Optimum DVD is presented in 25 fps. I've slowed down the audio to 24/23.976 fps to match StudioCanal/Criterion BD's frame rate. Confirmed pitch through spectrogram afterwards--it matches theBDs.
  • R channel at around 00:49:57 (SC BD timestamp) contains a very noticeable extra (digital?) artifact not present on L channel. There is another minor artifact only found on L channel at around 01:29:11 (SC BD timestamp) . I've patched in the opposite channel's signals during these two segments. The two channels are otherwise effectively identical, as confirmed by inverting the phase of R and downmixing to 1.0.
  • There is a somewhat frequent "pop" (?) on the Optimum DVD track. I've detailed this at https://fanrestore.com/thread-5320.html. I fixed a few places before deciding to leave them as is because there are just too many instances. Hopefully you don't find them distracting. The Criterion DVD's high-pass filtering masks these somewhat, but they are still audible at places.
  • I mostly synced by video. Where the frames diverged: 1) Optimum DVD has extra frame b/w Criterion BD timestamps 00:29:40.570-612, 2) DVD missed 1 frame during a dissolve b/w BD timestamps 00:49:47.067-00:50:23.812, 3) DVD missed 3 frames during another dissolve b/w BD timestamps 00:59:18.638-00:59:40.911, 4) DVD missed 1 frame b/w BD timestamps 00:59:40.911-952, 5) DVD missed 1 frame b/w BD timestamps 01:25:06.018-059.
  • Criterion and StudioCanal's BDs are frame-wise identical, except that Criterion has an extra 456 frames at the beginning (Criterion & Janus logos).

PM me for a link. Enjoy!

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  Identify and Repair an Audio Artifact
Posted by: axeyou - 2023-06-14, 07:06 AM - Forum: Audio and video editing - Replies (2)

I'm working on an audio sync and found that the DVD track I have contains some audio artifacts. Click? Pop? I'm not sure what the term is. For context, it's a film from the 1940s.

Here's a very short sample (ignore the hiss): https://voca.ro/1jBzL2dJmRNC

What it looks like on waveform:

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And on spectrogram. It's the highlight in the low frequencies.
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My questions:

  • What's it called? Pop? Click?
  • What's the best way to remove them? When there's no dialog, I can duplicate an adjacent segment to cover it. Otherwise, Izotope's "De-plosive" seems to work. Just wondering if there's a more proper tool because "De-plosive" is described as targeting "consonant speech sound."

Thanks!

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  The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) VHS Hi-Fi 89 synced to Blu
Posted by: Yarp - 2023-06-12, 11:42 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (1)

More info can be found here:
https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281948%29

Synced and level matched to the US blu-ray. Tape artifacts cleaned up via Izotope RX.
FLAC, mono, 339 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits

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  The Firm 1993
Posted by: xwmario - 2023-06-12, 09:42 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (1)

Looking for a Dolby stereo (2.0) LaserDisc or DVD track for the title - The Firm 1993
IMDB Info - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106918/

The audio can be out of sync etc., Will do the sync myself and share it to the community.

Regards

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  Hi!
Posted by: youspoonybard - 2023-06-11, 02:50 AM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Bootleg restoration fan/hobbyist over here. Hope to one day contribute to this fine site, but for now will be content to poke around.

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