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**Evit** · (This post was last modified: 2018-08-03, 08:00 PM by Evit.)

Oddly enough, Cliffhanger was on Italian TV with French credits (and Tristar+Carloco intro). I've never seen that before. End credits in English.

**Beber** · 2018-08-04, 10:37 AM

Indeed: https://fanrestore.com/thread-1618-post-...l#pid39757

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**Evit** · (This post was last modified: 2018-08-04, 10:45 AM by Evit.)

I tried taking the same screenshot (more or less), on the fly. Why Italians would use French master is beyond me. In any case, distribution companies clearly have HD scans of localized credits, they provide these to TV stations themselves, so they seem to care enough to invest money to provide these for TV but they are never to be seen on European Blu Rays, which is a shame

**Stamper** · 2018-08-05, 03:31 PM

Agree, all it would take is some seamless branching so that the french credits plays when you play the french dub.

**Beber** · 2018-08-05, 04:37 PM

Except that it would have to work with every language on the disc, and that would mean different authoring and whatnot depending on the country, and that's exactly the annoyance they don't want to deal with. So they stick to an English master and use subtitles in every language when needed.

**Beber** · (This post was last modified: 2019-05-31, 04:44 PM by Beber.)

Unbreakable, 6ter:

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Opening text in French.

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Time and space information in French.

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Title card in French.

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The rest of the credits in English.

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Time and space information in French.

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Final "what they have become" cards in French. By the way these 2 cards were never part of the 35mm prints released in France back then. Neither on the dubbed prints, nor on the original version with subtitles. Probably an omission, as they were given a clean slate to add them in French, I guess, but they never did, so the movie just froze for a few seconds. We had to wait for the DVD to realize that there was a reason for those freezing frames.

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End credits in English and cut out anyway.

**Beber** · (This post was last modified: 2018-10-01, 12:25 PM by Beber.)

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Extended Cut, France 4:

Blu-ray/France 4:

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Clean slate here, as they forgot to add the time information.

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This could be used to create a clean slate, removing the English burnt-in subtitles for a multi foreign version.

EDIT : Damn! It'll be harder than I thought, when 2 lines are involved:

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Spotlight, France 3:

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All texts apparently in French, including the full end credits.

**Beber** · 2018-10-01, 11:53 AM

Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, TFX:

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The Green Mile, TFX:

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**Beber** · 2018-10-10, 04:06 PM

The Great Escape, France 3:

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**Beber** · 2018-10-17, 08:16 PM

Spectre, France 2:

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Twins, RTL9:

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