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Posted by: youspoonybard - 2023-06-11, 02:50 AM - Forum: Presentation
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Bootleg restoration fan/hobbyist over here. Hope to one day contribute to this fine site, but for now will be content to poke around.
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12 Angry Men (1957) Criterion BD Synced to Kino UHD |
Posted by: axeyou - 2023-06-10, 11:48 AM - Forum: Released
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Spectrograms show that Kino's mono track is identical or very similar to the German MGM BD, which makes sense, considering MGM likely supplied the audio.
Per Blah-ray, the German BD has additional filtering on top of Criterion BD, and Criterion is the least terrible of the bunch.
Although they both sound bad, I can say there is still an audible difference between the two tracks, especially in ambient sound like the constant rain outside. The rain actually sounds very different, e.g. around 1:04:45 (UHD timestamp), with Kino sounding muffled and lifeless in comparison to Criterion.
Notes on the sync: - Criterion BD is presented in 23.976 fps, while Kino UHD is 24 fps. I've sped up Criterion's audio to 24 fps.
- Criterion opens and closes with the MGM lion. Kino opens with United Artist logo instead. Well, I had to let go of that lion roar
- Criterion missed a frame in the middle of a shot (how??), between frames #102216, 102217. This is BD timestamps 1:11:03.259-1:11:03.301, or UHD timestamps 1:10:49.467-1:11:49.509.
- After accounting for the above, Criterion and Kino's A/V syncs still diverge very often, sometimes by up to 50-90ms. I've tried to compare them, but I found myself to be fairly tolerant of A/V desyncs. So, for simplicity, I've mostly kept to Criterion's sync seeing how nobody has complained in the >10 years since their BD came out.
Input: PCM, mono, 1152 kbps, 48 kHz, 24 bits
Output: FLAC (compression level 5), mono, 657 kbps, 48 kHz, 24 bits
PM me for a link. Enjoy!
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Cinema Paradiso / Theatrical Cut (1988), 2013 Arrow BD Mono |
Posted by: axeyou - 2023-06-05, 06:25 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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Moshrom covered this back in the day: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2018/01/ci...-1988.html
According to him, the PCM 2.0 mono on the now-OOP 2013 Arrow UK 25th Anniversary BD was basically flawless. Judging from the cover art, I'd guess the 2017 Arrow US BD is probably identical.
Unfortunately, the same can't be said for Arrow's 2020 UHD. It sports a PCM 1.0 track instead of the previous 2.0 mono, but Arrow didn't simply re-encode the previous master as 1.0. Below is a spectrogram of the UHD's mono (my own disc), compared against 2002 Spanish Lauren Films DVD (I came across it on the Russian site). I've tried to match the spectrogram settings on Blah-ray.
![[Image: xabUXbe.png]](https://i.imgur.com/xabUXbe.png)
And for reference, here's Moshrom's spectrogram of the 2013 Arrow BD:
![[Image: mFr52jT.png]](https://i.imgur.com/mFr52jT.png)
It's clear that Arrow applied a low-pass filter to their UHD beginning at ~16kHz. Corroborating this is professorwho's post on BR:
professorwho Wrote:The PCM mono track sounds pretty good. I did detect some minor noise reduction at points, but it’s nothing too severe to my untrained ears, at least.
So, does anyone still have the 2013 UK / 2017 US BD lying around and can capture the theatrical cut's mono track? I suspect it's already in sync with the UHD, since the 2002 Spanish DVD appears to be in sync with UHD.
Thanks!
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The Night of the Hunter (1955) R1 NTSC DVD MGM synced to UHD |
Posted by: Trollking1 - 2023-06-05, 12:51 AM - Forum: Released
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Leaning... leaning... leaning on the everlasting arms on MGM DVD mono... safe and secure from all the crappy Kino Lorber audios.
This is the most detailed track so far, much better than the Kino UHD mono (which is worse than previous compared); DVD MGM NTSC R1 mono synced to Kino Lorber UHD, pm for the track.
Previous info: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281955%29
Input: AC3, 2.0 mono, 192 kbps,
Output: FLAC, 2.0 mono, 48 kHz, 16 bits
P.S: As bonus can also share the commentary available from Criterion to Kino UHD, all in sync; Format: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 48 kHz, 16 bits
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