What a shame!  I guess that the extended cut in the UK package is identical to the previous BD. It's probably a case of using up old stock, and it's likely to annoy people who pick up the combo hoping to see the new transfer on standard BD for now and in UHD down the line.

Looking at the footage in Oliver's video, the picture of this release looks really washed out. Is this due to not seeing the movie on a HDR monitor, or is this how the 4K disc looks? I don't have a 4K setup so I haven't any experience with these new discs and the HDR feature.

(2018-11-21, 05:42 PM)Booshman Wrote: Looking at the footage in Oliver's video, the picture of this release looks really washed out. Is this due to not seeing the movie on a HDR monitor, or is this how the 4K disc looks? I don't have a 4K setup so I haven't any experience with these new discs and the HDR feature.

The 4k disc looks amazing

(2019-02-17, 06:33 PM)dvdmike Wrote: The 4k disc looks amazing

Yeah, but to answer my original question, is this when the disc is displayed only on a 4K setup? I downloaded a rip of the 4K release and it looks washed out and a bit shit, as does the footage in the video I mentioned.

(2019-02-20, 05:24 AM)Booshman Wrote:

(2019-02-17, 06:33 PM)dvdmike Wrote: The 4k disc looks amazing

Yeah, but to answer my original question, is this when the disc is displayed only on a 4K setup? I downloaded a rip of the 4K release and it looks washed out and a bit shit, as does the footage in the video I mentioned.

If you downloaded the 4K version with HDR, and you are viewing it on your SDR monitor, in a player that tries to tone-map the 10-bit HDR to 8-bit SDR - then yes, it will most likely look washed out and crap

STM is never going to be demo material for 4K or HDR. The film was deliberately shot with soft, hazy look to it. But the UHD is the best it has ever looked in terms of detail and colour (gone is the teal suit of the BD). Obviously unless you're viewing on a true 4K HDR set up, you're not going to get the full benefit (and even then, not all HDR-capable displays are equal!) but even the SDR converted caps I've seen are a big improvement over the BD.

(2019-02-20, 08:21 PM)Setzer Wrote:

(2019-02-20, 05:24 AM)Booshman Wrote:

(2019-02-17, 06:33 PM)dvdmike Wrote: The 4k disc looks amazing

Yeah, but to answer my original question, is this when the disc is displayed only on a 4K setup? I downloaded a rip of the 4K release and it looks washed out and a bit shit, as does the footage in the video I mentioned.

If you downloaded the 4K version with HDR, and you are viewing it on your SDR monitor, in a player that tries to tone-map the 10-bit HDR to 8-bit SDR - then yes, it will most likely look washed out and crap

Thanks for the clarification.

(2019-02-20, 10:34 PM)Turisu Wrote: STM is never going to be demo material for 4K or HDR. The film was deliberately shot with soft, hazy look to it. But the UHD is the best it has ever looked in terms of detail and colour (gone is the teal suit of the BD). Obviously unless you're viewing on a true 4K HDR set up, you're not going to get the full benefit (and even then, not all HDR-capable displays are equal!) but even the SDR converted caps I've seen are a big improvement over the BD.

I'm sure it looks great, hopefully I can get set up for 4K and enjoy it myself at some point. I just thought it odd that the review videos I was watching, and screen cap comparisons I was looking at, all looked noticeably washed out. Now I know why.

I just took a look at the video you linked to. The UHD footage looks way darker than on a true HDR set up. This often happens with quick HDR > SDR conversions as the dynamic range is just being crushed to the lower peak brightness level rather than being properly mapped to compensate as can be seen in some of excellent the HDR > SDR conversions here:
https://fanrestore.com/thread-2171.html

I like the Special Edition video, however I dislike the Special Edition audio, I also wish a newer BD would be released,

I don't know why my quote from bluray.com was taken out of context like this, but I was NOT referring to the 5.1 track on the UHD disc, I was referring to the remix on the DVD/Blu-ray.  I was specifically telling someone else why I hated the remix.  The 5.1 on the 4K disc IS the 70mm mix.  Can someone please share that audio track here?  I don't particularly like the 4K transfer of the film and would like to mux the 70mm mix with the blu-ray video.