2021-07-04, 12:56 AM
(This post was last modified: 2024-03-09, 03:51 AM by freedomland.)
I originally posted this first in originaltrilogy.com and hopefully, it is of interest to someone in this forum:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeu...P/id/87177
This has been haunting me for a long time and finally there are news in this project which I can finally share with you. I had the opportunity to snatch a 35mm copy of Amadeus (1984) in his glorious theatrical-cut on eBay in February 2021. Even though I did not know much about the difference between the theatrical and director’s cut, I came across with the thread here on this forum(originaltrilogy) about the contribution of jimbotron235. I take the opportunity to thank you here for your amazing project which also motivated me to have a focus on obtaining the 35mm-Copy of Amadeus (1984):
(https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeu...d/id/16803)
I saw this movie for the first time in our school’s music class, my teacher loved it so much that we watched the entire movie in two sessions. Over the years, this classic became the prototype-movie of a character study for me in which two masters of their time try to either preserve their dominance at all costs or gain the fame they deserve through talent and competence. Told from a retro perspective, the protagonist is able to see his mistakes and shortcomings. Through this perspective, it becomes a psychological homage on forgiveness and regret.
When I saw this copy on eBay, I didn’t hesitate to buy it without bringing it up here first. I also wanted to make sure that the quality of the film is sufficient since it is an old print from the 80th copied in East Germany. The seller was upfront and honest in the first place and clarified that the colours faded, or more precisely: faded to magenta.
I was in contact with Dr.Cooper about this during that time and he reassured me that there are strong tools to overcome this issue already. He is also going to help me and guide this project with grading and restoring the whole film. Since it is my first project, I am thankful that he offered his help.
A couple of weeks ago, I also found a good opportunity for scanning the whole thing in 3208 x 2200 Pixels (approx.: 3,5K). Since I already got a test-scan of the second reel, I can confirm that the shift is relevant, but not the big deal I was afraid of. Although I am new to Davinci Resolve, I was able to tune down the magenta-shift with ravishing results. I think with the help of Dr.Cooper there is a lot more to get out of the print. Despite the fact that the print is not in a pristine shape regarding the fade to magenta, it has this magic only film is capable to reproduce. Currently I can only speak for the second reel, but there is not much dirt or many scratches on the film. I did some screen-caps for having an idea about how it is going to look later.
Just keep in mind: the copy has German optical-mono-sound, so nothing fancy, but it is still good to listen to and at least from an archival perspective also interesting to preserve as well. Dr.Cooper mentioned the English Laserdisc-Track which we can sync to this release, and there is also the DD-track on the DVD from 1997, which is mentioned by jimbotron235 in his Amadeus-Thread. Any help here, is also welcome.
My plan is to scan the rest of the film and restore the colours as soon as possible. Therefore, I need donations for scanning, shipping and storage, which will cost roundabout 300€ in total. The print is already paid. Therefore, I will take pledges towards the scanning costs, shipping and storage. When the project is funded, I will collect the donations and then order the scanning right away. The release will be exclusive for donors. Anyone who is interested in preserving this classic in 35mm is welcome to help covering the costs, please send me a message.
Here are some screen-caps. They're illustrating the magenta-shift and also hopefully, what we can get out of it. Please keep in mind that these aren't final results. I used a roughly rendered 1080p-file, which has just 8-Bit and 4:2:0. I can fully trust the scanning opportunity, since I know them and I have seen very good results already.
Pledges so far(83% reached):
The Aluminum Falcon: 15$(12€) paid in advance
NeonBible: 20€ paid in advance
allldu: 10€ paid in advance
camskittles18: 20$(16€) paid in advance
magstock: 50$(40€) paid in advance
Trystero: 30€ paid in advance
stwd4nder2: 10$(8€) paid in advance OT
Soupdrinker0: 20€ paid in advance OT
SpacemanDoug: 25$ paid in advance OT
ZackR: 15$ OT
tlen: 30€ paid in advance OT
Leatherface: 15$(13€) paid in advance OT
potatowes: 25$(20€) paid in advance OT
javidial 18€ paid OT
littlejoe416 20€ paid OT
gr33nban 10$ paid OT
0x897673 15€ paid OT
Venny 10€ paid OT
stretch009 18$ OT
350€ are pledged.
Edit: I am finally able to release a first version of Amadeus. Till recently I definitely wanted to avoid a non-final-release, but I came to conclusion that a progressional-release might be less stressful for all., meaning that I will give an update soon on a new grading I am working on. I am happy to lay aside the delay-phase and that we can finally watch this entirely, even with some issues. I hope you all enjoy this. I am going to provide all participants a link to Amadeus. If I miss someone, please reach out to me.
Edit2: I didn't have much time, but before I go to shift this thread to the released or maybe progress section, I want to appreciate the endless help of Dr. Cooper and the innumerable discussion we had together. He was and still is my mentor for this project. Without him this project wouldn't have been possible on many levels. Let alone the scan, but on moral support, knowledge, feedback and many other assets he was willing to share with me. Thank you Dr. Cooper. Looking forward for coming projects hopefully. (Sorry, I cant seem to tag your name, until then I made your name look taller). And also many thanks on The Aluminum Falcon for assisting me with several issues as well.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeu...P/id/87177
This has been haunting me for a long time and finally there are news in this project which I can finally share with you. I had the opportunity to snatch a 35mm copy of Amadeus (1984) in his glorious theatrical-cut on eBay in February 2021. Even though I did not know much about the difference between the theatrical and director’s cut, I came across with the thread here on this forum(originaltrilogy) about the contribution of jimbotron235. I take the opportunity to thank you here for your amazing project which also motivated me to have a focus on obtaining the 35mm-Copy of Amadeus (1984):
(https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeu...d/id/16803)
I saw this movie for the first time in our school’s music class, my teacher loved it so much that we watched the entire movie in two sessions. Over the years, this classic became the prototype-movie of a character study for me in which two masters of their time try to either preserve their dominance at all costs or gain the fame they deserve through talent and competence. Told from a retro perspective, the protagonist is able to see his mistakes and shortcomings. Through this perspective, it becomes a psychological homage on forgiveness and regret.
When I saw this copy on eBay, I didn’t hesitate to buy it without bringing it up here first. I also wanted to make sure that the quality of the film is sufficient since it is an old print from the 80th copied in East Germany. The seller was upfront and honest in the first place and clarified that the colours faded, or more precisely: faded to magenta.
I was in contact with Dr.Cooper about this during that time and he reassured me that there are strong tools to overcome this issue already. He is also going to help me and guide this project with grading and restoring the whole film. Since it is my first project, I am thankful that he offered his help.
A couple of weeks ago, I also found a good opportunity for scanning the whole thing in 3208 x 2200 Pixels (approx.: 3,5K). Since I already got a test-scan of the second reel, I can confirm that the shift is relevant, but not the big deal I was afraid of. Although I am new to Davinci Resolve, I was able to tune down the magenta-shift with ravishing results. I think with the help of Dr.Cooper there is a lot more to get out of the print. Despite the fact that the print is not in a pristine shape regarding the fade to magenta, it has this magic only film is capable to reproduce. Currently I can only speak for the second reel, but there is not much dirt or many scratches on the film. I did some screen-caps for having an idea about how it is going to look later.
Just keep in mind: the copy has German optical-mono-sound, so nothing fancy, but it is still good to listen to and at least from an archival perspective also interesting to preserve as well. Dr.Cooper mentioned the English Laserdisc-Track which we can sync to this release, and there is also the DD-track on the DVD from 1997, which is mentioned by jimbotron235 in his Amadeus-Thread. Any help here, is also welcome.
My plan is to scan the rest of the film and restore the colours as soon as possible. Therefore, I need donations for scanning, shipping and storage, which will cost roundabout 300€ in total. The print is already paid. Therefore, I will take pledges towards the scanning costs, shipping and storage. When the project is funded, I will collect the donations and then order the scanning right away. The release will be exclusive for donors. Anyone who is interested in preserving this classic in 35mm is welcome to help covering the costs, please send me a message.
Here are some screen-caps. They're illustrating the magenta-shift and also hopefully, what we can get out of it. Please keep in mind that these aren't final results. I used a roughly rendered 1080p-file, which has just 8-Bit and 4:2:0. I can fully trust the scanning opportunity, since I know them and I have seen very good results already.
Pledges so far(83% reached):
The Aluminum Falcon: 15$(12€) paid in advance
NeonBible: 20€ paid in advance
allldu: 10€ paid in advance
camskittles18: 20$(16€) paid in advance
magstock: 50$(40€) paid in advance
Trystero: 30€ paid in advance
stwd4nder2: 10$(8€) paid in advance OT
Soupdrinker0: 20€ paid in advance OT
SpacemanDoug: 25$ paid in advance OT
ZackR: 15$ OT
tlen: 30€ paid in advance OT
Leatherface: 15$(13€) paid in advance OT
potatowes: 25$(20€) paid in advance OT
javidial 18€ paid OT
littlejoe416 20€ paid OT
gr33nban 10$ paid OT
0x897673 15€ paid OT
Venny 10€ paid OT
stretch009 18$ OT
350€ are pledged.
Edit: I am finally able to release a first version of Amadeus. Till recently I definitely wanted to avoid a non-final-release, but I came to conclusion that a progressional-release might be less stressful for all., meaning that I will give an update soon on a new grading I am working on. I am happy to lay aside the delay-phase and that we can finally watch this entirely, even with some issues. I hope you all enjoy this. I am going to provide all participants a link to Amadeus. If I miss someone, please reach out to me.
Edit2: I didn't have much time, but before I go to shift this thread to the released or maybe progress section, I want to appreciate the endless help of Dr. Cooper and the innumerable discussion we had together. He was and still is my mentor for this project. Without him this project wouldn't have been possible on many levels. Let alone the scan, but on moral support, knowledge, feedback and many other assets he was willing to share with me. Thank you Dr. Cooper. Looking forward for coming projects hopefully. (Sorry, I cant seem to tag your name, until then I made your name look taller). And also many thanks on The Aluminum Falcon for assisting me with several issues as well.
