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Minority Report [spoRv] |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-01-19, 07:04 PM - Forum: Archived projects
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Minority Report [spoRv] (special preserved or Restored version)
updated: 2017-01-26
Mission: to restore Minority Report color grading.
Video sources: Blu-ray, DVD.
Audio sources: Blu-ray, DVD.
Subtitles sources: Blu-ray, DVD.
Project info:
“Minority Report” Blu-ray has a very natural color grading… a bit too much natural, for a sci-fi movie like this. The DVD has a different color palette, colder in most scenes, but sometimes more colorful than the Blu-ray.
So the Blu-ray will be regraded using the DVD as color reference.
Some references about colors:
DVDactive.com Wrote:For Minority Report, Spielberg once again allocated the skills of Janusz Kaminski, a rather ingenious Cinematographer who knows how to put DVD’s capabilities to the test. Minority Report is not a very colorful film, and is in fact quite the opposite. The look is hard, drab and cold.
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I would say that grain is a problem, but the grain visible is obviously a product of the bleach-bypass process used to achieve the film’s amazing look. http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/min...port2.html (about DVD)
TCM.com Wrote:Kaminski’s most interesting trick, however, was to desaturate and mute the film’s colors by employing a “bleach bypass” system. Normally in negative processing, the film emulsion is bleached. By skipping this step, the film ends up looking like a simultaneous color and black-and-white image, resulting in increased grain and contrast. Kaminski said, “The process pulled about 40 percent of the color out of the image, but we worked to get that back in by adding more color to the lights. Overall, the image has a bleached-out quality with deep shadows and blown highlights.” http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article.html?isPreview=&id=650696|648300&name=Minority-Report (about DVD)
Blu-Ray.com Wrote:The grading process began with Levinson matching an answer print. The answer print consisted of individual reels that Steven Spielberg had selected as best representing how he wanted the movie to be seen. At that point, Janusz Kaminski came in to work with Levinson. The grading was done while viewing the 4K files rather than a lower resolution proxy.
Steven Spielberg was also closely involved in the remastering and the resulting HDCAM-SR master represents how the creative team want the movie to be seen by viewers today. http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4078 (about BD) – bold added by me, you know why…
Source Material
Video:- Minority Report – EU Blu-ray
- Minority Report – IT PAL DVD
Audio:- Minority Report – EU Blu-ray
- Minority Report – IT PAL DVD
Subtitles:- Minority Report – EU Blu-ray
- Minority Report – IT PAL DVD
Project status: advanced
Final format: BD-25
First regrade test clip (first 3m33s): https://vimeo.com/200171806
First regrade comparison clip: https://vimeo.com/200184533
Latest regrade screenshot comparisons: https://fanrestore.com/thread-1263-post-...l#pid24980
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Possible, alternative "container" for our releases |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-01-19, 05:20 PM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases
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Until now, I released my projects mainly on BD with menus. I like menus, and you? I bet so...
The only free software that allow authoring BDs with menus is MultiAVCHD. It works - I mean, it makes a BD structure, ready to burn on actual BD-R disc, but some users found the burned BD not compatible with their players. Moreso, the most known software media players (MPC and VLC) have often strange behaviour with BD menus (much worse than DVD). So, at the end, final users play directly the 00000.m2ts file, and all my work results useless... still, I love to have menus, and intro, and so no...
Lately I find that many, many users (me included) don't burn projects on discs anymore, but play the file directly on their PC; a plain single file is the best option - one could play it "as is", or remux it in a BD (or AVCHD) structure, and have a phisical media to play. Still, menus are lacking, and intro, if any, must be added at the beginning (and/or end) of the file, meaning much work, and "ethical" issues.
MKV "seems" ready to support menus, but when?
Then, I thought to a possible alternative. A simple HTML5 player!
Crazy idea? Maybe, that's why I'm posting it here, to have your opinions. HTML5 players are used by everyone, on YouTube, Vimeo, DailyMotion and so on. Yet, they are very limited in comparison to any software player. But this could work in our favour, somehow... frankly, when I want to watch a video clip on my PC, all I want to do (eventually) is to choose my language and/or subtitle tracks, and you?
We could release a project in a single folder, with one HTML file that will start the player, and one MVK (or other) video file containing the main feature. Well, almost useless, someone could point out, what is the difference instead of playing the file directly? Well, if there is more than one file - for example, bonus material, or an entire bonus project, having an HTML file with simple menu pointing to those files could be handy (and with a nice looking).
I've seen some free HTML5 video players that allow to add custom made buttons; why don't add one for the trailer? One for chapters, one for audio and subs selection? A bit like DVD/BD menus, but made in HTML/CSS; great appearance, and small footprint, can be read by any OS, also mobile - even if I don't think someone would normally watch an entire 1080p movies on a cellphone...
Another great option could be to add soft matte to an open matte release, avoiding two releases (and double work/time to upload/time to download/HDD space etc.)
Seamless branching "could" work, too... maybe it's possible to have HTML buttons in the menu for the theatrical and extended version, where for example TC calls file1+file2+file3, while EE calls file1+file4+file2+file5+file3... got the point? More investigation is needed, to understand if this is possible and the join are indeed seamless.
Now, codec support: video AVC for sure, also WebM and Theora; audio AAC, vorbis, opus, FLAC, mp3, WAV; containers WebM, Ogg, MP4; I'm pretty sure there is a way to support MKV container, and audio AC3 as well. What's about DTS? Of course, it's still possible to convert audio to a supported format.
What is the output quality of a video clip played in an HTML5 player (possibly without using Flash)? I mean, visually I have the same quality of a software player? And audio wise?
It will be great to have a standardized player, where each of us could put his logo, and other custom... "things", but still having a look'n'feel familiar with other releases...
Still another crazy, and useless, idea, or can have some potential?
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Hey ! |
Posted by: Docsap - 2017-01-19, 11:31 AM - Forum: Presentation
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Hello to everyone on the board !
Better late than never, I just had to sign up here ! Thanks Andrea for all the work and happy 2017 everyone !
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provisional fan project list - HELP NEEDED! |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-01-18, 04:17 PM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases
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I'm compiling another master list; this time, of course, is about fan projects - restorations, preservations, fan edits and so on... so far, it has more than 1700(!) entries, but not so much from here... I thought to add also work in progress (WIP) and ideas for new projects...
I KNOW (yes, I KNOW! ) you have a lot of unfinished, half baked, barely started projects in your hard disks, yes, like me... fear not, disclose every project (just complete ones, no audio-only or trailers for the moment) you have, waiting to be completed, or just an idea in your mind...
List of released, in progress (WIP), psudo-abandoned but still into our mind (TBA), or just plain idea (IDEA) projects:
Code: 20,000 thousands leagues under the sea 20,000 thousands leagues under the sea - HDTV restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
2001: A Space Odyssey 2001: A Space Odyssey (BD ColourMatch the LD or DVD + LD soundtracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) (BD ColourMatch the LD or DVD + LD soundtracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Abyss, The, The (extended edition) The Abyss (extended edition) - HDTV restoration, using several editions TBA spoRv Restoration
Alamo, The (Director's Cut) The Alamo: Director's Cut [Ld Sourced + Extras] RELEASED Elmo Oxygen Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-927.html
Alien Alien DVHS Preservation Project WIP Jetrell Fo Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-587.html
Alien Alien Regrade (Fox THX Laserdisc) RELEASED PDB Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-19.html
Alien (Director’s Cut) Alien (Director’s Cut – D-Theater + LD soundtracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Alien (Theatrical Cut) Alien (Theatrical Cut – BD ColourMatch the LD or DVD + 70mm AC3 soundtrack) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Alien 3 Alien 3: The Reconstituted Workprint RELEASED Valeyard Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-1254.html
Alien: Resurrection (Special Edition) Alien: Resurrection (Variable Aspect Ratio: HDTV open matte & BD letterbox + LD DTS track & BD tracks) IDEA
Alien: Resurrection (Theatrical Cut) Alien: Resurrection (HDTV open matte + LD DTS track) TBA
Aliens Aliens TV Cut and Regrade (Fox THX Laserdisc) WIP PDB Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-43.html
Aliens (Special Edition) A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) (BD ColourMatch the LD or DVD + LD soundtracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Aliens Vs Predator: Requiem (Unrated) Aliens Vs Predator: Requiem (Unrated) [spoRv] - brightness restoration, two wrong shots fixed 2014-04-01 spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/aliens-vs-predator-requiem-unrated-sporv
Armour of God Armour of God HD-SD Hybrid WIP IcePrick Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-106.html
Arrival, The The Arrival – BD video with correct contrast & grain plate applied + LD soundtracks RELEASED spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/the-arrival-sporv/
Arrival, The The Arrival – Open Matte DVD upscale TBA spoRv Preservation
Back to the Future Back To The Future - To Be Continued Edition WIP ilovewaterslides FanFix https://fanrestore.com/thread-988.html
Back to the Future Back To The Future - Open Matte (Upscale Project) RELEASED PDB Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-971.html
Back To The Future Back to the Future (DCP video + LD soundtracks) IDEA spoRv Remux
Back to the Future franchise BTTF Trilogy Open-Matte IDEA FrankT Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-679.html
Batman Forever Batman Forever: The Virtual Workprint RELEASED Bad_Replicant Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-539.html
Beauty and the Beast (1991) Disney’s Beauty and the Beast [spoRv] - laserdisc preservation RELEASED spoRv Preservation http://blog.sporv.com/disneys-beauty-and-the-beast-sporv
Bicentennial Man Bicentennial Man IDEA spoRv Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-94.html
Big Blue, The (US Theatrical Cut) The Big Blue - US Theatrical Cut IDEA Bigrob Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-1193.html
Black Cauldron, The The Black Cauldron - HDTV restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Blade Runner Blade Runner Regrade (Criterion Collection Laserdisc) RELEASED PDB Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-226.html
Brother (1997) Brother (1997) - Custom Bluray with actual HD print WIP Colek Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-513.html
Bullet in the Head Bullet in the Head – Upscale + Uncut reconstruction WIP IcePrick Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-1236.html
Children of the Corn (Director's Cut) (1984) Children of the Corn (1984) Directors Cut X5gb Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-417.html
Chronicles of Riddick, The The Chronicles of Riddick Extended variable aspect ratio (HDTV open matte for TC + HD-DVD letterbox for missing scenes) IDEA spoRv Extended Edition
Chronicles of Riddick, The (Theatrical Cut) The Chronicles of Riddick TC (HDTV open matte) TBA spoRv Restoration
Dark Knight franchise The Dark Knight Trilogy - Theatrical Preservations WIP CSchmidlapp Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-56.html
Devil's Advocate, The The Devil's Advocate "Uncensored" Edition + Extended Edition 1080p BD project WIP jerryshadoe Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-1105.html
Do The Right Thing Do The Right Thing - 'orange tint' IDEA alexpeden2000 Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-129.html
Do The Right Thing Do The Right Thing - regraded to Criterion dvd RELEASED alexpeden2000 Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-765.html
Dracula (1979) Dracula (John Badham -1979) with original color badflame Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-246.html
El Mariachi El Mariachi. Original AR / Open-Matte IDEA CSchmidlapp Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-1209.html
Escape From New York Escape from New York [Evit]: US & Italian theatrical +german audio (fixing Shout) WIP Evit Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-1001.html
Escape from New York Escape From New York [spoRv] - HDTV + LD tracks 2014-01-21 spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/escape-from-new-york-sporv
Evil Dead, The Evil Dead (BD ColourMatch the LD or DVD + LD soundtracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Evolution Evolution - D-Theater restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Father Christmas (1991) Father Christmas (1991) custom AVCHD RELEASED Chewtobacca Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-1208.html
Ghost in the Shell Ghost in the Shell - Ultimate Edition IDEA CSchmidlapp Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-86.html
Ghostbusters II Ghostbusters 2 - HDTV restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Gladiator (Theatrical Cut) Gladiator (Theatrical Cut) – Open Matte WIP spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/gladiator-theatrical-cut-sporv
Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The The Good, The Bad and The Ugly International Cut/US Theatrical Cut RELEASED PDB Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-706.html
Halloween Halloween [spoRv] - BD regraded with DVD as reference, plus LD tracks 2013-12-03 spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/halloween-sporv/
Hellboy (Theatrical Cut) Hellboy Theatrical Cut HD IDEA Booshman Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-87.html
Highlander (US Theatrical Cut) Highlander US Theatrical Cut IDEA Booshman Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-88.html
Independence Day (Extended Edition) Independence Day Extended Edition (BD + HDTV for extended scenes + LD soundtracks) TBA spoRv Restoration
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (HDTV + LD sountracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom (HDTV + LD sountracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Island of Fire Island of Fire - Complete Uncut Bluray WIP Colek Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-561.html
Journey into Fear (1943) Journey into Fear (1943): Restored Cut - BD25 RELEASED The Aluminum Falcon Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-1245.html
Jurassic Park Jurassic Park [ruLes] 2013-05-06 spoRv Preservation http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Jurassic-Park-ruLes-10-BD-released/topic/15422
Killer, The The Killer - Ultimate Edition WIP CSchmidlapp Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-61.html
Last of the Mohicans, The (Original Theatrical Cut) The Last of the Mohicans - Original Theatrical Cut - BD-50 - Shadoe RELEASED jerryshadoe Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-494.html
Lighthorsemen, The (Director's Cut) The Lighthorsemen: Director's Cut [Laserdisc sourced + extras] RELEASED Elmo Oxygen Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-928.html
Lord of the Rings franchise Lord of The Rings trilogy (Extended Edition – BD ColourMatch DVD + italian fixed audio tracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Lost World: Jurassic Park, The The Lost World: Jurassic Park [ruLes] – LD preservation 2013-06-23 spoRv Preservation http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Lost-World-Jurassic-Park-ruLes-BD-RELEASED/topic/15501
Mad Max 2 (aka Road Warrior) Mad Max 2/Road Warrior Regrade (Warner 97 DVD/LD) WIP PDB Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-126.html
Mad Max 2 (aka Road Warrior) Mad Max 2 (BD ColourMatch DVD or LD + LD soundtrack) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome Regrade IDEA PDB Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-373.html
Mad Max: Fury Road Mad Max: Fury Road - Black & Chrome recolored IDEA spoRv FanFix https://fanrestore.com/thread-1192.html
Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Reloaded - HDTV open matte TBA spoRv Restoration
Matrix Revolutions, The Matrix Revolutions - HDTV open matte TBA spoRv Restoration
Matrix, The (1999) The Matrix [spoRv] - BD regraded with DVD as reference 2013-10-30 spoRv Restoration http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Matrix-spoRv-BD-25-RELEASED/topic/15832
Minority Report Minority Report – BD regraded with DVD as reference WIP spoRv Restoration http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Minority-Report-spoRv/topic/16292
Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol (IMAX Version) WIP PDB Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-623.html
Morphine Morphine - 1080p Bluray - TheRealThunderbolt WIP Colek Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-663.html
No Escape (1994) No Escape (1994) – HDTV WIP spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/no-escape-1994-sporv
Panic Room Panic Room – HDTV open matte TBA spoRv Restoration
Peter Pan and the Pirates Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates WIP jerryshadoe Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-764.html
Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night (1987) Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night (1987) NTSC DVD9 RELEASED jerryshadoe Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-258.html
Poltergeist (uncut) (1982) Poltergeist (1982) uncut titanic Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-259.html
Psycho (Uncut) (1960) Psycho (1960): Uncut Version Reconstruction - BD25 RELEASED The Aluminum Falcon Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-1214.html
Qualcuno in ascolto (aka High frequency) (1988) Qualcuno in ascolto (High frequency) (1988) WIP spoRv Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-287.html
Raiders of the Lost Ark Raiders of the Lost Ark - WOWOW-sourced custom BD RELEASED Chewtobacca Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-491.html
Raiders of the Lost Ark Raiders Of The Lost Ark (HDTV + LD sountracks) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Ransom (extended cut) Ransom (extended cut) – laserdisc preservation IDEA spoRv Preservation
Rear Window Rear Window: HDTV-sourced custom BD (Harris Restoration) RELEASED Chewtobacca Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-528.html
Robin Hood (Theatrical Cut) Robin Hood (Theatrical Cut – HDTV + LD soundtracks) TBA spoRv Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-468.html
S1M0NE S1M0NE - HDTV restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Screamers Screamers - HDTV restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Sid & Nancy Sid & Nancy [In]Complete Collection RELEASED Elmo Oxygen Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-801.html
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Regrade WIP FrankT Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-803.html
Snowman, The (1982) The Snowman (1982) custom AVCHD RELEASED Chewtobacca Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-682.html
Solaris (2002) Solaris - HDTV restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Something Evil (1972) Something Evil (1972) WIP jerryshadoe Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-297.html
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Star Trek VI - HDTV-sourced custom BD (theatrical) RELEASED Chewtobacca Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-508.html
Star Wars: Episode II– Attack of the Clones (2002) Star Wars: Episode II- Attack of the Clones (2002): IMAX Cut Reconstruction RELEASED The Aluminum Falcon Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-1243.html
Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope Guerre Stellari [OUT] [ruLes] - Original Unaltered Trilogy 2013-03-22 spoRv Preservation http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/GUERRE-STELLARI-OUT-ruLes-IT-A-NEW-HOPE-RELEASED/topic/15299
Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope Star Wars: A New Hope [OUT] [ruLes] – Original Unaltered Trilogy 2013-02-28 spoRv Preservation http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-A-New-Hope-OUT-ruLes-20-AVCHD-BD-RELEASED/topic/15313
Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope (1997 Special Edition) Star Wars: A New Hope [SET] [ruLes] - Special Edition Trilogy 2013-03-29 spoRv Preservation http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-A-New-Hope-SET-ruLes-10-AVCHD-BD-RELEASED/topic/15052
Superman III Superman III recoloured WIP Booshman Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-936.html
Superman IV Superman IV IDEA Booshman Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-290.html
Supernova (2000) Supernova (2000) [spoRv] - HDTV restoration 2014-05-05 spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/supernova-2000-sporv
Suspiria Suspiria (BD ColourMatch the DVD or LD + LD soundtrack) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Sword In The Stone, The The Sword In The Stone Open Matte Original Theatrical Mono 1963 Multiaudio Multisubs. RELEASED jerryshadoe Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-653.html
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Theatrical Cut) Terminator 2 (Theatrical Cut) Regrade WIP PDB Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-588.html
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines Terminator 3 - HDTV open matte TBA spoRv Restoration
Thing, The (1982) The Thing [spoRv] v2.0 (using new remastered BD) WIP spoRv Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-1109.html
Thing, The (1982) The Thing (1982) [spoRv] - BD regraded with LD as reference, plus LD tracks 2013-08-19 spoRv Restoration http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Thing-1982-spoRv-BD-25-RELEASED/topic/15723
Time Machine, The The Time Machine - D-Theater restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Top Gun Top Gun – Open-matte / 1080p / Multiaudio-multisubs / BD project WIP jerryshadoe Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-496.html
Total Recall Total Recall: custom BD RELEASED Chewtobacca Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-989.html
Total Recall (1990) Total Recall (Mind Bending BD ColourMatch DVD or LD + LD soundtrack) IDEA spoRv Restoration
Trainspotting Trainspotting: Uncensored RELEASED The Aluminum Falcon Reconstruction https://fanrestore.com/thread-1011.html
Transformers: The Movie (1986) Transformers: The Movie (1986) Custom BD RELEASED Chewtobacca Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-1127.html
Troy (Theatrical Cut) (2004) Troy (2004) Open Matte (Theatrical Cut) RELEASED Chewtobacca Preservation https://fanrestore.com/thread-1203.html
True Lies True Lies – HDTV open matte TBA spoRv Restoration
True Lies True Lies (D-Theater + LD soundtracks) TBA spoRv Restoration
Village, The The Village - HDTV restoration TBA spoRv Restoration
Walking Dead, The We Are The Walking Dead (Mini-Series) FANedit WIP jerryshadoe FanMix https://fanrestore.com/thread-95.html
Warriors, The (Theatrical Cut) The Warriors Theatrical IDEA alexpeden2000 Restoration https://fanrestore.com/thread-790.html
Waterworld Waterworld - HD-DVD video regraded, plus LD tracks WIP spoRv Restoration http://blog.sporv.com/waterworld-sporv/
Waterworld (Extended Edition) Waterworld (extended cut) - HD-DVD + upscaled DVD TBA spoRv Restoration
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Looking for the "right" Alien Resurrection color grading... |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-01-17, 09:20 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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It seems there is some interest in this topic, so I thought to start a proper thread; the first posts are moved from other threads, to be perfectly on topic - sorry for that, posters, but I think it's better to gather them in one place.
Everything started around this, more or less:
(2017-01-16, 06:26 PM)spoRv Wrote: Don't know... as Alien Resurrection LD supposedly used the silver retention print master, maybe it could be the same for X files.
(2017-01-17, 03:35 AM)PDB Wrote: I got a question on that. Does your LD look different then the BD, spoRv? Everyone says the LD is taken from a silver print so I got a cap from Jonno to see if it was worth a regrade project. And beside being brighter because of the IRE difference, it looked basically the same as the BD. Not enough to get excited about.
(2017-01-17, 09:20 PM)spoRv Wrote: Alien Resurrection: yesterday (actually, this night) I briefly compared it on LD, DVD, BD, HDTV: the last three share the same color grading, while the LD seems very similar, but a bit brighter... so, I'm pretty sure its master was not made using an ACE print...
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Neverar here. Never fear. |
Posted by: Neverar - 2017-01-17, 06:49 AM - Forum: Presentation
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I was pointed this way by _^..^_ from OT forums, nice to see some familiar names around here. I don't know how much I'll be contributing, but here I am!
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DTS "Digital Experience" long version |
Posted by: TServo2049 - 2017-01-17, 06:43 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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Hello,
Among all the DTS CDs we've accumulated over the years, does anybody have the revised long version of the Digital Experience logo, the one we're more familiar with? I would love to hear that in cinema DTS again.
Or was it on its own CD that we don't have?
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Random ideas for new projects |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-01-16, 04:57 PM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases
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Sometimes I wonder how a project maker decides which movie needs a restoration/preservation... so I thought to some ideas to take in account, to choose which movie will be the object of our new project, and what to make with it - if you have further ones, let me know! This could help new (and future) project makers, and also food for thought for the existing ones.
- "unfixed" titles - let's face it, we are a bit tired of all the Star Wars projects, aren't we? That's not the fact we do not love it - we do! - but start a new project about it, unless this is really revolutionary, it will be hardly needed... think about some less known title that needs to be fixed, or even a famous one which is not fixed yet - there are many around...
- uncommon titles - some obscure, forgotten one; an old b&w masterpiece, that Hong Kong flick that nobody knows, but also a mainstream title who nobody thinks it needs a fix
- not only movies - why don't restore an animated feature, a concert, a documentary, a TV series? Or compile a brand new bonus disc, with all those extra material like interviews, behind the scenes, documentaries etc? Or just clean that old scanned trailer full of scratches?
- extended edition - it's common practice to add deleted/extended scenes as bonus material in the released media; why don't put them back in the movie?
- theatrical cut - or, there is some rare cases where the only HD version is the extended one; it's good to have this, because we all love to watch more, but to me, it's mandatory to offer also the theatrical cut
- original cut - George Lucas docet... do you need more explanations? Apart extensive reconstruction made to such movies, often just few scenes must be replaced to restore an original cut
- film scan - let's face it, this is a great option, even if it's an hard (and expensive) task to buy and scan a film, and to restore its colors, clean the dust, scratches etc.
- added footage - for your light fan edit, you could think to replace some shots with a different take, or a shot taken from a documentary, trailer and so on...
- open matte - yes, we all know that a movie *should* be watched in its original aspect ratio; but sometimes, there are some open matte versions that really deserves to be preserved!
- color grading - often the new HD versions have revised color palettes, usually the well-knows "teal & orange"; but if the theatrical colors were different, it's a good idea to try to restore them, in particular if you have a color reference like previously released SD media or film cells
- logo free - tough task, if you haven't two different versions with logo placed in different corners...
- no HD releases - there are so many great HDTV broadcast recordings out there, that could be used as "HD master" for a project...
- upscale 720p - a simple task, that could lead to perfect results if well done, way better than any real time upscaling
- upscale SD - but, if there is no HD availble source, this is a viable option; a well done upscale - better using a good SD source, and combine two or more if possible - could outperform any simple upscaling done in real time by an hardware or software player, or display
- proper speed - what if the only available HD version has 25fps? Simple, remux it to 24fps (or 23.976fps) to restore the original theatrical version - don't forget to convert the audio, too!
- inverse telecine - convert back to film the 29.97fps material, to avoid judder and spare some bits - do not forget to NOT touch the audio, though!
- grain plate - the noise reduction applied from the studio removed all the grain? Fear not, just add a real 35mm film grain plate, and the video will look better
- colorize a B&W film - ethically, I don't want to pronounce; technically, it's the most hard work possible... as there are not good automatic colorize method (yet), it should be done by hand... good luck!
- original audio track - often the audio mix is revised, too; the old laserdiscs, DVDs and even VHS tapes could be a treasure for the original mix present in them. Do not exclude the DTS Cinema tracks, too!
- multiple audio tracks - if there are several interesting options, we could add'em all! Also, multi language projects are cool!
- subtitle track - sometimes there is no subtitle tracks at all, or it need a fix
- literal subtitle - taken from CC or transcripted from the dialog, great for the hearing impaired or not native speaker who wants/needs to understand perfectly the dialog, word by word
- multiple subtitles - each sub track takes so little space, so it will be great to add some extra language subs
I have surely forgotten some interesting ones, but I rely on your help.
Also, if you want to have some fun, why don't you follow some of the tips contained here? https://fanrestore.com/thread-1147.html
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Alien 3: The Reconstituted Workprint |
Posted by: Valeyard - 2017-01-16, 12:34 PM - Forum: Released
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I lament the fact that I had to be the one to create this. I flagged that I might give it a shot in August 2015 on an OT.com thread.
Change list (SPOILERS!): - 20th Cent Fox logo removed.
- The first 36 minutes or so conform to the theatrical version with no changes.
- Added the scene with convicts following the scene where Clemens confronts Ripley at the scrap heap.
- Returned the meeting between Clemens and Andrews to the workprint cut (no Aaron, but longer than the theatrical cut).
- Following Junior's attempt to rape Ripley, the establishing shot showing the prisoners entering the tunnel is returned (Golic smashing the cigerete machine is not include though, because it isn't in the workprint).
- The Assembly Cut version of the Bishop-Ripley conversation is used, which is intercut with Golic being confronted by the other convicts.
- The infirmary scene with Ripley, Clemens, and Golic is re-cut to better match the workprint, using both theatrical and assembly cut elements.
- Ripley says "sounds good to me" after Morse threatens her.
- Obviously, they trap the Xenomorph in the toxic waste tank. The Assembly Cut was used for the whole ~18 min sequence with no changes.
- The Assembly Cut is used from the scene where the prisoners discuss what to do (immediately after Ripley asks Dillon to kill her) through to the end of the film.
Basically, I cut it to match the workprint as closely as possible. No creative liberties taken.
Notable absence: The scene where the prisoners are arguing about Golic and Dillon talks to them isn't included. I couldn't isolate the scene because there's audio cues as Dillon walks over that fades out, and, there are audio cues over Ripley's entrance in both versions too. It's a shame, but it is what it is.
Another notable change is that the alien has a host in this version. In the workprint, we never find out who the Xenomorph's host is, presumably because the shot was unfinished. But, since there's no way to remove the cremation inter-cutting, the alien has a host.
In total about 17 minutes is added to the film. In contrast, the Assembly Cut runs 30 minutes longer than the theatrical cut. It's also about 4 minutes longer than the Workprint.
On MySpleen. Mega link also available, PM me.
Technical Details:
Video: 1080p AVC ~19.5 Mbps. Edited using TVSuite, thus only ~0.02% of the video is re-encoded, most is stream-copy.
Audio: 24bit 48000Hz FLAC (Lossless) made from the DTS-HD MA track. AC3 track included for compatibility. Audio edited using ffmpeg to splice and also to encode to AC3, mkvtoolnix to join, eac3to to encode to FLAC.
Size: 21.9GB.
All audio edits are seamless.
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