[Help] Amadeus (1984) 35mm Theatrical-Cut. Help Needed!

[The Aluminum Falcon]

Woohoo! Hi @freedomland . Excited to check this one out

[freedomland]

Dr.Cooper mentioned the English Laserdisc-Track which we can sync to this release, and there is also the DD-track on the DVD from 1997, which is mentioned by jimbotron235 in his Amadeus-Thread. Any help here, is also welcome.

make sure you use the JPN LD audio which is a big improvement over the US discs. there is a chance the ac3 mix on the later US release sounds good but i have not heard it. there's also an isolated score available.

I have different ones,  [PSE96-073],  [PILF-2216] this should be the japanese one you mentioned. These two were given to me yesterday by @stwd4nder2, thank you very much. I got also the older Laserdisc LV1791 by @Dr.Cooper (I suppose its from williarob but please correct me if its someone else)

i was referencing SF098-5062 which is probably the same as SF057-1774. no reason to include multiple versions of the same audio tracks is some just sound worse. i'd pick the best 2.0 mix and the best 5.1 mix + commentary.

Thanks for the inside, I will include those in the second version, just wanna keep things manageable right now. I don't wanna stretch the patience of the donors even further. For what its worth, consistency works pretty well, I hope you don't mind when I postpone to provide audio-variety. The Laserdisc I work with has also the video included which makes it easier for me to sync it to the german synchronization (which is naturally not really lipsync in the first place).

[freedomland]

Woohoo! Hi @freedomland . Excited to check this one out

Yayy, I am glad getting back to this board, thanks for all making it easy as possible for me  . It such a nice place with so many productive people working on thing one cant really appreciate enough.

[freedomland]

I say we welcome the DVD track! Welcome, 1997 DVD!

#FREEDVD

Lets do that as well with the other ones after version 1. And thank you for the kind words on pm, that's worth something for me.

[Yarp]

The Laserdisc I work with has also the video included which makes it easier for me to sync it to the german synchronization (which is naturally not really lipsync in the first place).

And I see it mentioned here all the time, but you don't need matching video to do an audio sync. Doing everything in spectrogram is the best way to do a sync and will ensure it's accurate with no video needed. The german track needs to be in sync first though, otherwise it's going to be a nightmare to line another track up. The english voices and all other sounds should all be in sync on the German track...if ths is not in sync though, how are you planning to sync up an English track to it?

If you get the German audio in sync and send it to me (just audio), I could sync any audio track to it in a few hours or less. Don't waste time syncing and including a poor sounding audio track to a project like this.

[freedomland]

German synchronization are generally lagging a little, it gotten better nowadays, but if you are not used to it, you notice it right away. Video match is important to see which frames I miss in my print in comparison to the laserdisc for instance. I have not a perfect print, so I gotta know if I have missing frames or not. Its not a big deal though
and thanks for the help offer @Yarp

[Yarp]

Video match is important to see which frames I miss in my print in comparison to the laserdisc for instance. I have not a perfect print, so I gotta know if I have missing frames or not.

 
why are the missing frames important? the corresponding audio with those frames will be missing too right? just pull the german audio up in spectrogram, along with the audio you want to match and sync away. if the german sync is just lagging a bit then make your one delay adjustment before you sync. if then german track goes in and out of sync throughout the movie then that is probably going to be a long manual process to fix but you still wouldn't need the LD video. all you need is the german audio to be in sync and then you can match any english track you want without needing the video.

[freedomland]

Video match is important to see which frames I miss in my print in comparison to the laserdisc for instance. I have not a perfect print, so I gotta know if I have missing frames or not.

 
why are the missing frames important? the corresponding audio with those frames will be missing too right? just pull the german audio up in spectrogram, along with the audio you want to match and sync away. if the german sync is just lagging a bit then make your one delay adjustment before you sync. if then german track goes in and out of sync throughout the movie then that is probably going to be a long manual process to fix but you still wouldn't need the LD video. all you need is the german audio to be in sync and then you can match any english track you want without needing the video.

good point, this is how I usually synced LD-Audios to new video-transfers.

[camskittles18]

News regarding upcoming 4K restoration: https://www.academymuseum.org/en/program...e3b63fa8ce

It will be fascinating to compare the 35mm print with the 4K restoration!

[stwd4nder2]

News regarding upcoming 4K restoration: https://www.academymuseum.org/en/program...e3b63fa8ce

It will be fascinating to compare the 35mm print with the 4K restoration!

Did they confirm that they're restoring the theatrical cut?