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  Hi people
Posted by: squee666 - 2017-07-29, 04:22 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (5)

Hello!

I just joined the forum because I am interested in classics from before my time that have aged well but sadly been treated unfairly by upscales and HD re-releases.

I really enjoy these projects that are keeping the original colours and increased fidelity

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  "a whole film in an image" comparisons
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-27, 02:59 PM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (4)

Are you curious to see the differen color grading, or aspect raio, of a movie, but don't want to watch it all? Well, just take a look at "a whole film in an image" GIFs and screenshot comparisons!

**(warning: big images, it could take some time to load'em all!)**

Title (year) [project] - differences - release date - GIF image - comparison link

Alien (1979) [Fundamental Collection #001] - colors, 85% of movie with bigger frame - 2017-04-18

Aliens (1986) [Fundamental Collection #002] - colors - 2017-04-19
Alien³ (1992) [Fundamental Collection #003] - colors - 2017-04-20
Alien: Resurrection (1997) [Fundamental Collection #004] - colors - 2017-04-21
AVP: Aliens Vs. Predator (2004) [Fundamental Collection #012] - colors - 2017-05-17
The Arrival (1996) [Fundamental Collection #008] - colors - 2017-04-01
The Chronicles of Riddick (2004) [Fundamental Collection #011] - open matte - 2017-05-09
Ghostbusters (1984) - colors, bigger frame size - unreleased
Halloween (1978) [Fundamental Collection #006] - colors - 2017-03-07
Interstellar (2014) - colors - unreleased
Interstellar (2014) - custom letterbox Vs IMAX, colors v2 - unreleased
Minority Report (2002) [Fundamental Collection #007] - colors - 2017-03-11
Silent Hill (2006) [Fundamental Collection] - colors, open matte - unreleased
The Mummy (2017) [spoRv] - colors, 5% of movie desubbed - 2017-07-24
The Thing (1982) [Fundamental Collection #005] - colors - 2017-03-01
Timeline (2003) [Fundamental Collection #010] - open matte - 2017-04-13
Waterworld (1995) [Fundamental Collection #009] - colors - 2017-04-05
Wonder Woman (2017) [spoRv] - colors, 5% of movie desubbed - 2017-07-21

if someone would like to add his project comparison images here, just write the link of the comparison in the comment.

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  Interstellar - BluRay "inspired by" 70mm
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-27, 05:37 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (19)

Inspired by idea of this OT thread, and from the 70mm film frame found there, and because I'm tinkering a lot with color grading lately, I've decide to give it a go...

[Image: Interstellar_comparison1.jpg]

[Image: Interstellar_comparison2.jpg]

The colormatched version found in the middle is produced, according to the original poster, using the LUT obtained by Dr. Dre's tool; the matched frame is almost perfect, while this result is a quite a bit far from it... maybe it's due to an old version? dunno... my "inspired" version is closer.

Why "inspired by 70mm"? Because at first I tried to get an image as close as possible to the film frame; but, when I reached an almost perfect result, even if it worked well for the same scene, it worked not so well in many other ones - in particular, clipped whites problem. So, I decided for a compromise, and this time it works very well with the whole movie - still got to watch it all, though, so for the moment the opinion is based on still frames - http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/124259 - and few short clips... let's wait for the whole movie to be regraded and I'll tell you more.

I've briefly compared the HDTV version - which is all 2.40:1 - and, like PDB wrote in another thread, it seems that the IMAX shots are just cropped, more or less perfectly at center... so, I'd add a YAO hack to get a letterbox version.

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  Daredevil (2003) Theatrical Cut HD
Posted by: zoidberg - 2017-07-26, 11:51 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (8)

I know it's not a classic but is there any interest in a HD Theatrical cut? It seems the only official HD release has been the Director's cut (even on DVHS)

I've got a 1080i HDTV cap of the theatrical cut, it shouldn't be too much work to return the TC scenes into the official Blu, synced to the DVD's DTS/AC3 (or possibly the cinema DTS).

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  The White Point/The Green Tint
Posted by: zoidberg - 2017-07-26, 10:51 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (11)

I've been doing a lot of digging around with regards to these blanket tints that a lot of Blu Rays tend to receive, especially with regards to those which have a DCP cinema release which is unaffected despite coming from the same master/restoration (obvious examples are The Terminator and Aliens). In doing so I've come across various forum threads and articles regarding the DCI colour space P3 and it's white point which is noticably green. Just search for 'P3 white point' and a ton of stuff comes up. This thread in particular stood out:

http://www.liftgammagain.com/forum/index...oint.1326/ 

I'm guessing something is happening on the conversion to Rec709, ie the white point has not been compensated, resulting in green whites. Once the discussion starts going into xyz values my brain goes a bit mushy but I'm sure there are members here who can make more sense of this.

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  Trainspotting: Criterion Collection Laserdisc Audio (PCM/AC3)
Posted by: zoidberg - 2017-07-26, 10:37 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (2)

I've capped the bit-perfect PCM and AC3 soundtracks from the Criterion Collection release of Trainspotting (CC1477L). They have been synced to the US Lionsgate BD and as such will sync with The Aluminium Falcon's Custom BD.

PM For mega download links, this will be available to active members of the forum only.

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  DVDs/LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-26, 02:26 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (5)

DVDs/LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs
  • 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Special Edition #60 (Uncut) [LD] [CC1160L] - sourced from 35mm master, which was a printdown of the original 70mmCinerama negative, but in same 2.20:1 aspect ratio
  • Akira: Special Edition (1988) LBX, USA - 1992 release [LD] [CC1294L]
  • American Werewolf in London [LD] [34679]
  • [/url]Atlantic City [LD] 34711
  • Black Christmas (1974) LBX, USA - 1999 release [LD] [11590]
  • Bringing Up Baby (1938) [LD] [ID3219TU] - print sourced, possibly from a fine grain source archived
  • Close Encounters of the Third Kind: Special Edition (1980) LBX, UK [LD] [LD 10003]
  • Doctor Zhivago (1965) LBX, USA - 1991 release [LD] [ML101526]
  • Earthquake (1974) [LD] [42072]
  • Evil Dead, The (1981) [LD] [SF078-5044]
  • Forgotten Tune for the Flute, A (1988) [LD] [ID7194FR]
  • Getaway, The (1972) LBX, USA - 1995 release [LD] [11122]
  • Ghostbusters (1984) [LD] [LD 13119]
  • Go west [LD](ML102561)
  • Incident at Blood Pass (1970) [LD] [AD098-039]
  • It's a Wonderful Life (1946) Special Edition #18 [LD] [CC1112L] - sourced from fine grain negative
  • Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind (1984) LBX, Japan - 1984 release [LD][98LX-1]
  • Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors [LD] 07136
  • North by Northwest #45A (1959) [LD] [CC1226L]
  • Olympia: Fest der Völker/Fest der Schönheit (1938) [LD] [IVCL-1015W]
  • Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (1973) (Uncut) [LD] [ML102238] - sourced from Sam Peckinpah's personal print which he had to steal from the studio and keep in his garage. Only version that exists of uncut film, and same sourced used for DVd version
  • Pink Panther, The (1963) [LD] [ML102108] - seems to be anamorphic 35mm instead of a Technirama print
  • Shot in the Dark, A: Pink Panther (1964) [LD] [ML102110]
  • Silent Rage (1982) [LD] [VLD-5549]
  • Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) [LD] [LVG 2062]
  • Ten Commandments, The: 35th Anniversary (1956) LBX, USA - 1992 release [LD][[url=http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/21955/LV12971-3WS/]LV12971-3WS]
  • Terminator  (1984) LBX, USA - 1991 release [LD] [ID8316HD]
  • Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory: 25th Anniversary [LD] [14546]
Original post made on LDDB by AntcuuFaalb (thanks to him and other posters); as it was not updated, I thought to extract info from there, and continue the update here, adding also DVDs (I'm pretty sure there are no BDs/HD-DVDs with cue marks, but they will be added if I'm wrong!) when they will be found.

So, next time you'll watch a LD or DVD, and note those cue marks, please post the title here!

IB Technicolor changeover cue
[Image: 22_SINGIN.jpg]

anamorphic changeover cue
[Image: 22_VIVALA.jpg]

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  Spiderman Origins Bluray Set (Sam Raimi)
Posted by: Jetrell Fo - 2017-07-26, 05:04 AM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other - Replies (12)

I thought I'd start a new thread for this so folks could discuss it more.

1. Has anyone else purchased either of the new Bluray sets?
2. Which one or did you get the Legacy Steelbook set?
3. What did or didn't you enjoy about Spiderman 3, the Editor's Cut?
4. Any fan edit ideas for this trilogy?

And go ..........................

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  O Brother, Where Art Thou? color grading
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-25, 02:22 PM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (3)

The Colorist Wrote:Directors Joel & Ethan Coen and cinematographer Roger Deakins had the entire film scanned and digitally color graded at Cinesite in Los Angeles.

“It was shot in Mississippi in the summer, when it was green and lush,” says Bogdanowicz, “but they wanted a postcard sepia look. They went to a lab and tried to find some sort of process to get the feel they wanted, but they couldn’t achieve it. Color timers in a traditional lab would have used a heavy yellow-red color correction, which would have changed the blue in the sky and the denim jeans. So, the only way to achieve the look was digitally. Cinesite did a chroma-key on the green and turned it to brown gold.” -> link

http://imgur.com/a/TFmoy

So, according to the article, HDTV is the closest to the theatrical presentation IMHO; removing the usual magenta blanket would take it even closer.

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  The Mummy (2017) [spoRv]
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-25, 04:57 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (2)

The Mummy (2017) [spoRv]
[Image: TM_cover.jpg]
Source: original IPTV KorSub rip (video, English audio) very high quality; LD-TS (Italian audio) lower quality
Video: 1080p (1920x800 2.40:1 active image) 23.976fps AVC 16mbps (40mbps max)
Audio: AC-3 448kbps 5.1 English, AC-3 192kbps 2.0 Italian
Subs: hardcoded Korean, soft English (forced), English (full), Italian (forced)
Chapters: no
Runtime: 1h50m17s
Notes on the source: Korean hardcoded subs, half "12" yellow logo appears sometimes for few seconds on top right corner; Italian audio has lower volume than English and some distortion on high volume parts, while English is perfect and has great quality
Notes on the release: green blanked removed and natural color reinstated; contrast improved; one shot with five duplicated frames fixed; five minutes replaced with top quality source without subs, the rest was deblocked and sharpened, and a 35mm grain plate added, to get improved quality; Italian audio patched with English parts to replace missing ones, plus starting and ending credits; English and Italian forced subs created from scratch

Screenshots (1, 2, 4 top quality, 3 improved quality):
[Image: TM_017104_sporv.png]

[Image: TM_046566_sporv.png]

[Image: TM_094000_sporv.png]

[Image: TM_113068_sporv.png]

Comparison (top untouched, bottom regraded)
[Image: TM_comparison.jpg]

Screenshot comparisons:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/216696
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/216696

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